By His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

ke vayam nāma-rūpābhyām yadubhih saha pāndavāh

bhavato ‘darśanam yarhi hrsikānām iveśituh

[SB 1.8.38]

Kunti prays to Krishna, “As the name and fame of a particular body is finished with the disappearance of the living spirit, similarly, if You (Krishna) do not look upon us, all our fame and activities, along with the Pāndavas and Yadus, will end at once.”

This is the case not only with the Pāndavas but every one of us. When somebody dies, big man, big scientist, big politician, big philosopher, when he’s dead, the big name, “Here is Mr. Nixon, here is Mr, Sir Isaac Newton, or…,” has no value. Nāma-rūpābhyām. Nāma means name and rūpa means form. So long we are living, our name, our fame, our form, our activities, are glorious. And as soon as the life is gone, nobody cares. It is a lump of matter. That’s all. When a big man is living, nobody can go before him or touch him—there are so many guards. But the same man, when he’s dead, if he’s lying on the floor, if somebody kicks on his face, nobody cares, finished.

So we should understand this. That after the disappearance of the soul, this so-called big name, big fame, important body, has no value. And what is that soul? That soul is part and parcel of Krishna. Therefore we are energy of Krishna.

Just make Krishna minus and everything becomes zero, finished

So motion-giver is Krishna. Otherwise you can give very big, big name or very big, big form and dress, they are all useless. That is being explained by Kuntī, that “We are very big. People say that we are Pāndavas. Similarly we have become famous. How? Because You are our friend.” Krishna is the friend of the Pāndavas. Krishna is the friend of Arjuna specifically. Therefore Arjuna is so great a warrior. He has got gigantic vigour. Kuntī knows that. “What is the value of my sons, the Pāndavas, without You. They are saying, ‘Oh, Pāndavas are so big warriors and heroes.’”

People do not understand this. They are very proud of having a nice body and nice name. “I am American,” “I am Indian,” “I am this,” “I am German.” So what is this, German, American and Indian? A bogus name and bogus form, that’s all. It has no value. Just make Krishna minus and everything becomes zero, finished. This is fact. But people are such rascals that they do not understand this fact. Who can deny it? If the body, the American body or Indian body, or good name and big name, it has no consciousness, then what is the value? No value. Therefore it is said that,

bhagavad-bhakti-hīnasya jātih śāstram japas tapah

aprānasyeva dehasya mandanam loka-ranjanam

Consciousness is present in everyone. We have forgotten Krishna; therefore we simply say “consciousness.” In reality, consciousness means Krishna consciousness, because without Krishna, you cannot have consciousness. Therefore the right name is Krishna consciousness, not “consciousness.” Just like without the sun how can there be sunshine? Therefore we say “sunshine,” not “shine.” Therefore as soon as there is consciousness, it must be Krishna consciousness. If one makes Krishna minus, he’s a rascal.

This requires a little brain to understand. So the devotees have got brain. They understand. Just like Kuntī says, “What is our value? We are so big, big men – Pāndavas and Yadus. But what is the value?” Therefore she admits, ke vayam nāma-rūpābhyām: [SB 1.8.38] “Simply big name and big form, it has no value.” Bhavatah adarśanam. Because Krishna was parting, or taking farewell, Kuntī regretted, “Since You are going, we cannot see You. If we cannot see You, then what is the value of our name, fame?” She’s lamenting. yarhi hrsīkānām iva īśituh. “It is exactly like the senses.”

Without Krishna consciousness, there is no possibility of sense enjoyment

Now we are after sense enjoyment. This material world means sense enjoyment. But without Krishna or without Krishna consciousness, there is no possibility of sense enjoyment. The senses are there. You have got big hands, big legs, and everything big, big. But when there is no Krishna consciousness, you cannot even utilize them. Hrsīkānām. Hrsīka means senses. Therefore an intelligent person knows that “My senses without Krishna have no value.” That is devotee. “Therefore as long as my senses are active, they may be used for Krishna.” That is bhakti. This is the right conclusion because without Krishna, these senses have no value. Thus there is some intimate relationship with my senses and Krishna. That’s a fact. Because without Krishna, what is the value of your senses?

To give up that note or to take that note, both is useless. So similarly karmī and tyāgī, or bhogī and tyāgī, they’re all useless

Therefore it is the duty of everyone to use the senses for Krishna. Just like the property of somebody should be used for him and not for others. I have given this example many times. Perhaps you may remember. Suppose there is an assembly and a hundred dollar note is lying there, fallen from somebody’s pocket. So if you take the hundred dollar note and put in your pocket: “Here is a hundred dollar note,” then you are a thief, because that hundred dollar note does not belong to you. You are taking it without his information. That means you are a thief. This is called bhoga (enjoyment). And another is tyāga (renunciation). One thinks, “Oh, why shall I touch it? It is somebody’s property. Let it remain there. I have nothing to do.” This is called tyāga, giving up. So the hundred dollar note is the same. One is trying to enjoy it, and one is trying to give it up: “I don’t care for it.” So both, the bhogī and the tyāgī, are fools. Bhogī means the karmīs. The karmīs are those who are working very hard, trying to utilize material resources. The scientists are utilizing the material resources. That means they are all making policy of how to steal that note. That is the policy of the karmīs. And another person, who was unable to steal, says, “There is no need of …” Oh, grapes are sour. That is tyāgī.

So both the bhogīs and tyāgīs, the two classes of men, you’ll find. Mostly they’re bhogīs. They are trying to enjoy anything for their sense gratification utility. And another, when he’s baffled, he says, “No, no, we don’t require it.” Similarly the same example: If one takes that note and says, “Somebody has lost his hundred dollar note, sir.” So one who has really lost the hundred dollar note immediately says, “Yes, yes. I had…” And if you deliver to him, then that is real service. To give up that note or to take that note, both is useless. So similarly karmī and tyāgī, or bhogī and tyāgī, they’re all useless.

And bhakta, devotees, they know that everything belongs to Krishna; now it should be offered to Krishna. That is real service. Take the same example. You lift the hundred dollar note and you ask, “To whom does this hundred dollar note belong?” If you give him, that’s a great service. That man becomes very much pleased upon you: “Oh, you are so nice.”

So similarly everything belongs to Krishna. What is this body? This body is made from material elements, earth, water, fire, air, and then within the body, subtle psychological elements such as mind, intelligence, ego are present. So Krishna claims, “All these eight elements are My separated energy (Bg 7.4).” Then where is your body or your mind? You cannot claim them as yours; you do not know even how this body is working.

But this body does not belong to me; it belongs to Krishna

Although I am claiming, “This is my body…” Take, for example, you are just a tenant in an apartment. You are getting all supplies. But you do not know that how the tap water is working or fire is working. But you pay rent, or somehow or other, you have occupied the apartment. You are utilizing. Similarly, we are utilizing this body. But this body does not belong to me; it belongs to Krishna. This is real fact. So this body means senses. Therefore senses also belong to Krishna, mind also belong to Krishna. Everything that I have got belongs to Krishna. I am a spirit soul. I have been given the opportunity to utilize a certain type of body because I wanted it. Krishna has given me. Krishna is so kind. Ye yathā mām prapadyante tāms tathaiva bhajāmy aham [Bg. 4.11]. If you want a body of a king, Krishna will give you. You do the prescribed method and you get the body of a king. And if you want the body of a hog, to eat stool, Krishna will give you.

So Krishna is giving you the body. So now in the human form of life, one should understand that “Everything belongs to Krishna. So why am I hankering after satisfying my so-called body? Rather, since I have now got the senses and the body, let me serve Krishna.” That is intelligence.

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